I have been a Syracuse fan for a long time. Let me refrain that, I have been a college football fan for a long time. I can not remember another program fall on there face so fast in my entire life. how does a tradition filled program become the laughing stock of college football. I have been a steadfast supporter of Dr. Gross, but the bad has over taken the good. How can he sit idly by and watch a program go down the tubes. I don't care if Grob destroys Cincy next week, and I don't care if Grob signs the top ten high school players. This has gone on long enough! We need to make a change now, not next week, not next year, NOW. Dr. Gross if you are not willing to swallow your pride then you should be let go. Your the captain of this ship and the captain must go down with his ship. Make the change, save this program from Greg Robinson. We need a winner, we need a recruiter who can recruit in the north east, and we need to turn this thing around now.
Greg you think your a good coach, you were standing across the fields from a great coach yesterday. What makes a coach good is his ability to use his players to the best of there ability.The prior coach on the hill did that, you are not. Every person who watches Syracuse last year could have told you that you are deficient on the Offensive line, an intelligent coach would have gone from junior college to junior college to find players. what did you do, you brought in a few freshman who could not block for a pee wee team. You wonder why your not winning, you have an offensive scheme that requires excellent blockers. Arob and Dantley have less than a few seconds to do anything. A great coach would throw in a few option plays to draw the attention off your line. Now Don't get me wrong, I believe Greg is a great coach, he is just not the guy that can build a program, in the right situation Greg is going to be the man, it's just not in Syracuse. Greg you say you love this school, you love your players, and you love the fans, Then do the right thing and walk away. Save your name, save your face, and for god's sake save Syracuse Football, walk away.
Here is what the Syracuse Fan base is saying, and if i was Dr Gross I would be listening!
Posted by manliusguy
I am just so embarrassed for our school, and our community. There has never been, in the history of D-1 athletics a bigger decline in a major sport. This is not bad football, or bad coaching, bad players, bad fans, etc. This is a collapse of leadership at many levels within the University. For a major program to be allowed to descend this far, this fast, is unheard of. The chancellor talks a lot, but is standing by watching this debacle, obviously incapable of overseeing an athletics component of a University. Any other major university would have fired the coach after last year, and by the middle of this season fired the athletic director. I am just sad for our school that expectations are so low as to allow this state of affairs. Please trustees, make changes, the coach and athletic director must go now! The chancellor has done a lot of good in general, so give her more time to prove she can make tough decisions other than fundraising and building physical plant. How about the image and morale of an alumni base?
Posted by Hustonb
Why should we be afraid of firing Greg Robinson? Could things get any worse?
The argument for keeping him is that he knows what he is doing and building for the future. But there is no evidence of that. It's not like he had a proven track record as a head coach. He's never done this before.
As for recruiting better players, I have yet to see a truly impressive underclassman.I expected to see at least one guy on the defense who could blow up the other teams offense.
Greg Robinson is making Daryl Gross look stupid for hiring him. The longer this goes on the worse it looks for Daryl. At the end of the year, let's look for a quality, proven head coach to become available and sign him.
Hoping GRob will figure out how to turn this program around is wishful thinking.Paying off the rest of GRob's salary is money well spent.
Posted by goodboy
How about SU play the high school teams in the area! A lot of them are pretty good and look at the money saved - all games would be local.
Posted by pignose44
One more thing. Daryl Gross once said in December 2004, "Just wait and see what we do with the football team."
Yeah, nice work Daryl. You should be fired too. At least you have that cozy suite you build in the dome. Clown.
Posted by ottawacuse on
I had been looking forward to going to the UC game next week, but after the debacle today, I will stay home....Coach Robinson seems like a nice guy, I agree, but he hasn't won and hasn't recruited.
I would love to see a young recruiter like Mike Locksley or Dan Mullen take over to rejuvenate this team. If people are seriously worried about losing the current commitments, they need to check recruiting sites. I am 100% sure that if they bring in a recruiter, the class will improve immensely. Please just do something!
Posted by ezcuse
I have been fairly supportive of G-Rob for three years. The bottom line is that it is not working. Not working at all.
#1. I am not sure what our offense is... but it is predictable and boring. We look fortunate to move the ball on the rare occasions that we do. We have had one game where we looked competent offensively... Louisville. UConn brought in a Juco transfer and did fine this year. The time issue is simply pointless. And if we don't have the players to run our offense... why not run the offense that works for their skill set???
#2 Our defense is not fun to watch either. We have developed into a fairly good run defense. However, all too often, 3rd and anything can be converted because we allow teams to complete the short pass... and then allow our weak spot--tackling--to lead to a first down. Or, they simply make the play underneath for enough yardage. And, worse yet, when our offense does move the ball and score, our defense usually allows the opposition to return the favor. Shouldn't it be the opposite?
#3 Special teams. We rarely go for any block at all. This is college... play like a college team and try to block the kicks!
#4 Play calling. Timid and predictable. If I see one more punt from the opposition's 45 yard line and in, I am going to vomit. What good is it when the other team is pinned if we are not going to stop them anyway because of our "bend but not break defensive philosophy" and if we are just going to allow the punter to punt without pressure even if they do punt? We continue to waste plays throwing into the flat.
#5 The fan support is flat. G-Rob lost half the community in season one... another 20% last year... and 25% more this year. Miami loss? Horrible play calling against Pitts down the stretch? Blowouts in every other loss? We'll be better this year... but 4-8 again is about all anyone can expect.
The program needs a shot of enthusiasm for the fans and players. The players need a coach who is a proven winner... whose promises that we have turned the corner are less about positive thinking and have much more credibility. The fans need a reason to believe that the next game and next season will be different.
The ills of Coach P are not maximized. We have gone from a few mega-embarrassing losses a year under Coach P to only a few respectable losses a year. The 3 or 4 win difference is enough to make a game like next weak possibly "not worth watching." I watched the NIT games last year... the ND game in 2003... etc. No S.U. game should leave me with apathy.
Finally... now is the time to make a move. To the extent that it is unfair to an unquestionably good man like G-Rob, this should help him land on his feet elsewhere. We need a team that is fun to watch, even if losing. We need a coach with the credibility to land the players that are considering Syracuse... now and in the future. There is a lot of blame to go around for the current state of things... but instead of debating whether G-Rob is 30 or 50 or 70 or 90 percent of the problem... it's time for a solution. The solution is not currently employed by Syracuse.
The end.
P.S. If we are not going to hire someone with experience and credibility, then we have to hire someone that will be able to recruit key areas like NJ, Conn, or Fla. If we are not going to do that... then Gross needs to go. All of his marketing is pointless if we are not going to invest in a coach.
Posted by cusegirl93
When is a decision going to be made about Gross????? WHAT HAS HE DONE for the program besides bring in this horrible coach??? SU used to have a football program and a damn good one. Cantor needs to step up, take charge, stop being so wimpy before the Dome is empty every Saturday next fall. Right now Gross & Robinson need to go. This is a disgrace!
Posted by oldfan35
Greg you think your a good coach, you were standing across the fields from a great coach yesterday. What makes a coach good is his ability to use his players to the best of there ability.The prior coach on the hill did that, you are not. Every person who watches Syracuse last year could have told you that you are deficient on the Offensive line, an intelligent coach would have gone from junior college to junior college to find players. what did you do, you brought in a few freshman who could not block for a pee wee team. You wonder why your not winning, you have an offensive scheme that requires excellent blockers. Arob and Dantley have less than a few seconds to do anything. A great coach would throw in a few option plays to draw the attention off your line. Now Don't get me wrong, I believe Greg is a great coach, he is just not the guy that can build a program, in the right situation Greg is going to be the man, it's just not in Syracuse. Greg you say you love this school, you love your players, and you love the fans, Then do the right thing and walk away. Save your name, save your face, and for god's sake save Syracuse Football, walk away.
Here is what the Syracuse Fan base is saying, and if i was Dr Gross I would be listening!
Posted by manliusguy
I am just so embarrassed for our school, and our community. There has never been, in the history of D-1 athletics a bigger decline in a major sport. This is not bad football, or bad coaching, bad players, bad fans, etc. This is a collapse of leadership at many levels within the University. For a major program to be allowed to descend this far, this fast, is unheard of. The chancellor talks a lot, but is standing by watching this debacle, obviously incapable of overseeing an athletics component of a University. Any other major university would have fired the coach after last year, and by the middle of this season fired the athletic director. I am just sad for our school that expectations are so low as to allow this state of affairs. Please trustees, make changes, the coach and athletic director must go now! The chancellor has done a lot of good in general, so give her more time to prove she can make tough decisions other than fundraising and building physical plant. How about the image and morale of an alumni base?
Posted by Hustonb
Why should we be afraid of firing Greg Robinson? Could things get any worse?
The argument for keeping him is that he knows what he is doing and building for the future. But there is no evidence of that. It's not like he had a proven track record as a head coach. He's never done this before.
As for recruiting better players, I have yet to see a truly impressive underclassman.I expected to see at least one guy on the defense who could blow up the other teams offense.
Greg Robinson is making Daryl Gross look stupid for hiring him. The longer this goes on the worse it looks for Daryl. At the end of the year, let's look for a quality, proven head coach to become available and sign him.
Hoping GRob will figure out how to turn this program around is wishful thinking.Paying off the rest of GRob's salary is money well spent.
Posted by goodboy
How about SU play the high school teams in the area! A lot of them are pretty good and look at the money saved - all games would be local.
Posted by pignose44
One more thing. Daryl Gross once said in December 2004, "Just wait and see what we do with the football team."
Yeah, nice work Daryl. You should be fired too. At least you have that cozy suite you build in the dome. Clown.
Posted by ottawacuse on
I had been looking forward to going to the UC game next week, but after the debacle today, I will stay home....Coach Robinson seems like a nice guy, I agree, but he hasn't won and hasn't recruited.
I would love to see a young recruiter like Mike Locksley or Dan Mullen take over to rejuvenate this team. If people are seriously worried about losing the current commitments, they need to check recruiting sites. I am 100% sure that if they bring in a recruiter, the class will improve immensely. Please just do something!
Posted by ezcuse
I have been fairly supportive of G-Rob for three years. The bottom line is that it is not working. Not working at all.
#1. I am not sure what our offense is... but it is predictable and boring. We look fortunate to move the ball on the rare occasions that we do. We have had one game where we looked competent offensively... Louisville. UConn brought in a Juco transfer and did fine this year. The time issue is simply pointless. And if we don't have the players to run our offense... why not run the offense that works for their skill set???
#2 Our defense is not fun to watch either. We have developed into a fairly good run defense. However, all too often, 3rd and anything can be converted because we allow teams to complete the short pass... and then allow our weak spot--tackling--to lead to a first down. Or, they simply make the play underneath for enough yardage. And, worse yet, when our offense does move the ball and score, our defense usually allows the opposition to return the favor. Shouldn't it be the opposite?
#3 Special teams. We rarely go for any block at all. This is college... play like a college team and try to block the kicks!
#4 Play calling. Timid and predictable. If I see one more punt from the opposition's 45 yard line and in, I am going to vomit. What good is it when the other team is pinned if we are not going to stop them anyway because of our "bend but not break defensive philosophy" and if we are just going to allow the punter to punt without pressure even if they do punt? We continue to waste plays throwing into the flat.
#5 The fan support is flat. G-Rob lost half the community in season one... another 20% last year... and 25% more this year. Miami loss? Horrible play calling against Pitts down the stretch? Blowouts in every other loss? We'll be better this year... but 4-8 again is about all anyone can expect.
The program needs a shot of enthusiasm for the fans and players. The players need a coach who is a proven winner... whose promises that we have turned the corner are less about positive thinking and have much more credibility. The fans need a reason to believe that the next game and next season will be different.
The ills of Coach P are not maximized. We have gone from a few mega-embarrassing losses a year under Coach P to only a few respectable losses a year. The 3 or 4 win difference is enough to make a game like next weak possibly "not worth watching." I watched the NIT games last year... the ND game in 2003... etc. No S.U. game should leave me with apathy.
Finally... now is the time to make a move. To the extent that it is unfair to an unquestionably good man like G-Rob, this should help him land on his feet elsewhere. We need a team that is fun to watch, even if losing. We need a coach with the credibility to land the players that are considering Syracuse... now and in the future. There is a lot of blame to go around for the current state of things... but instead of debating whether G-Rob is 30 or 50 or 70 or 90 percent of the problem... it's time for a solution. The solution is not currently employed by Syracuse.
The end.
P.S. If we are not going to hire someone with experience and credibility, then we have to hire someone that will be able to recruit key areas like NJ, Conn, or Fla. If we are not going to do that... then Gross needs to go. All of his marketing is pointless if we are not going to invest in a coach.
Posted by cusegirl93
When is a decision going to be made about Gross????? WHAT HAS HE DONE for the program besides bring in this horrible coach??? SU used to have a football program and a damn good one. Cantor needs to step up, take charge, stop being so wimpy before the Dome is empty every Saturday next fall. Right now Gross & Robinson need to go. This is a disgrace!
Posted by oldfan35
Coach must go -- no more seasons. How long does Syracuse University think we are going to support a losing team. We need a coach that can turn this program around. Look around at the junior college and High School programs. Get someone new that wants to get into the college world and forget the pros.
When we turn off the money the University will get the message.
My question is how can so many people be wrong, Dr. Gross could it be possible that you are wrong, Make the change, save this proud program!
When we turn off the money the University will get the message.
My question is how can so many people be wrong, Dr. Gross could it be possible that you are wrong, Make the change, save this proud program!
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