Gross's moment of truth

As I was searching through hours of interviews I came accross Steve Infanti interviewing Daryl Gross. Skip to the end and you will hear the not so high vote of confidence. It almost seems like someone else is pulling the strings. Could Gross be a figure head. If he is, he is going to go down as one of the worst ad's in history. Atleast we now that Gross is not to keen Grob coming back.

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Here are some comments that i have found. Godd luck Gross

So when SU starts out 1 -6 next year, how are we going to recruit? Its obvious that Gross won't make a coaching change during the year, so basically GROB is a lame duck coach next year. We have NO chance of improving and having a good recruiting class next year. Everyone i'm sure is already using this against us. I guess that Gross and the admin at SU doesn't care one bit about what the fans think. I for one will NOT be spending one $$$$ on anything to do with Syracuse University unitl GROB is gone.

The curse of D. Gross goes on...
The Top Ten Reasons Why SU Football Will Not Bring Back Fans.
Let me preface this by saying I support all the young men that bust their rears. Who likes to lose?... again, and again...and again...
10. Burnt Toast..., I mean west coast offence.
9. "Lets leave now(end of 1st half), I can watch/listen to the loss.(actually heard from a ticket holder).
8. Where is the excitemient on entering the game? Nothing is morepowerful than walking out and squatting, and then walking again, then squatting again.
7. Quick kick!
6. Otto(just kidding he's pitiful like our football program). Noseriously Otto's OK.
5. Giving the public an incentive to purchase tickets(free B-ball Tix). However, season ticket holders..."NO SOUP FOR YOU!"
4. Not quoting G-Rob, but something to the effect of: I know youare sick of hearing this, but...
3. And it continues..."We have to work harder/ It's Hard work" (GWB school of leadership).
2 . No end in sight. Meaning to another losing season.
1. It is hard to polish a turd.

We lost the battle. But we have not yet lost the war.
With a decision this absurd... it is not over yet.
if enough people follow through on their threats to cancel our season tickets, we'll get an A.D. in here who cares about the kids like Fairchild and Williams and Suter... and a coach who can make them be in the right place, at the right time, with the skills necessary to make the play, and the confidence to do it.

Absolutely Horrible.All this mid-major garbage talk. Syracuse is 14th all time in total wins. Does that scream mid-major to anyone. This was the worst decision ever, not only will there be another season of losing there will be even less people watching them lose now. GROB is a nice guy but a complete fraud!!!! He was never a head coach for a reason and we are all seeing that come to light now. I REPEAT this is the worst decision of all time. For all of you idiots that want to say that the kids are the ones that suffer your right they will suffer if the come to the SU football program. Gone are the days I can remember knocking off a top 5 Miami team or VA Tech in the Dome or Nebraska. These coaches play not to lose every game when they should be playing to win every game. There decisions are horrible and the team suffers from the trickle-down theory and it all comes from the top. I wanna puke and will never waste my time watching SU football again until there is a new leader at the helm. I'm DONE UGGGGGHHHH. fairchild tell your kid to back out and go somewhere else.

Incredibly, GROB admits most of what I have been saying the past week, conceding that he is open to "EXAMINING HIS PROGRAM PHILOSOPHY." WHAT??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After 3 years, the head ball coach is open to examining his "program philosophy." Oh my lord, it's even worse than I thought. A stunning admission by a Division 1 HEAD football coach.
I'm at a loss for words.

I just turned my Syracuse University diploma backwards on my office wall. I have heard enough for one half day about the absolutely foolhardy decision that was announced to keep Robinson as football HC.I knew that Gross was too pompous to admit failure in his original hiring of this clown.Get on with it....oust GROSS N-O-W!!!!! He is HOPING TO SURVIVE on Robinson's coat tails.I would not want to be in that situation for any money in the world.I have one last hope:That Gross and Cantor are lying to Robinson just as they did three years ago when she gave Pasqualoni her "vote of confidence" that he was staying on as HC. Eight days later Coach P was canned.Maybe with some luck they had to run to Staples to get a new "typewriter ribbon" for their "secretary pool" to draft a contract for a new coach, yet to be named. Clearly they have no clue in what to do and they are panicked in how to close this era of horse-poop football out.What a mess.I never thought that SU Football would be in such a dire situation:
1.No productive coaching leadership
2.A court jester as an AD
3.More empty seats in the dome than fannies occupy
4.Worse..............hideous uniforms!
5.Last, but not least................................NO HOPE!!!

DON'T WORRY!
If I remember correctly, Gross and Cantor lie to everyone about the coach coming back the next year, and THEN, around Christmas, FIRE HIM, creating the worst possible situation for all coaches and all recruits, and making that "gap" quite a bit worse than it needed to be.
This is step 1--pretend he's coming back. Step 2--They'll probably call him on Christmas Eve to fire him.
I wish Coach R. all the luck in the world--and admire the players for getting through the mess that their careers here have been.
Gross, however, I pray, subjects no other university, high school, middle school, or elementary school to his bumbling egomaniacal athletic directing after he is duly fired from SU. If I pass Pete Carroll in a hallway someday, does that mean I, too, will be seen as the next coming in college athletics??

Unbelievable!! There better be a COMPLETE overhauling of his pathetic coaching staff! NO more hiring ex -HS school assistant coaches or volunteer assistance from no name school's! Time to get some reputable COLLEGE coaches up there so they can help bring in decent recruits. What a joke...

Go ahead and subtract one more from the number of remaining season ticket holders.

"these guys are going in the direction that we think we can compete for championships in the future"
ARE YOU SERIOUS. I didn't know they have championships to last place teams.

SYRACUSE FOOTBALL IS DEAD-LONG LIVE THE ORANGEMEN-
dr gross you just decided your own fate with the fans- you are nothing in our eyes,you came 3 years ago and fired a guy with 6 wins and replaced him with your guy who has only 7 in 3 years and getting blown out every game is standard-
you have no problem with super poor football coaching-so do it without the fans because we wont be at the dome in 08-
penn st will have a another home game at the dome -i wonder if dr kevorkian is hoping they buy enough season tickets to make some money because syracuse fans wont

WOW! BREAKING NEWS FROM THE HILL!
SYRACUSE IS CHANGING ITS NAME AGAIN!THEY WANT TO BE CALLED THE TEMPLE OWLS!!!!

Un-F'n-believable! Let's see here... He took a 6-5 bowl team and turned them into a 1-10 team. The following year he goes 4-8, but looses all, but 1 conference game. This year he goes 2-10 and is statistically the worst football team in division 1A (ranked #115- #119) in every single category.Hell, give Robinson a 3 year extension and maybe we could compete in division 1AA football.
My family and i have spent over $4000. a year on just mid-field level tickets, which we are not going to re-new. I would rather watch a better coached football team(like W.Genesee HS) for almost free than to watch this debacle up on the hill that costs me thousands.........

the rest of the world respondes

2008 hot seat

The guys over at Three Idiots on Sports look at next year with the glass is half full approach

Three Idiots Again on Gross Negligence

Orange 44 on how to entice an angry mob

Cuse Scoops

I have to admitt i really do enjoy Cuse Scoops. If you have never checked it out, do it now. Funny stuff. Did you hear Gross Fired Boeheim!

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Sorry about that last post. I was in a state of shock, Thank god we still have Basketball........ wait a minute, what the fuck is going on here. You are telling me on the same day that Gross drops the bomb that Grob will be here for one more year, the Basketball team loses to Umass. Let me repeat myself, what the fuck. The curse of Daryl Gross continues. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!

Does anybody else feel what I am feeling right now. Now granted Gross had nothing to do with with loss but holy shit FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. Ok i think i got out of my system.

Ok I am calm, no I am not. I feel that i was slapped in face today. As a Syracuse Fan i honestly feel that the program is spiraling out of control and there is no immediate hope to save it. I do not see how Grob can turn this program around in a year. This pass that Gross has given him is insane. I am I watching the same games as Gross. I watched a team go through a season, not tackling, not blocking, getting stupid penalties, and calling the most conservative plays i have ever seen. Fine you want Grob to stay, then fire every coach under him. they all should be held accountable.

Now then back to the Basketball game. What the hell is Boeheim doing leaving his team in zone when you are down at the end of the game and you need the ball. Was he thinking that Umass was going to hand the ball over to him, cause they didn't. What the Fuck is going on, has everyone lost there mind today.

This really is bothering me, I am going to the bar to drink the rest of this day away. 99 bottles of beer on the wall, you take one down pass it around 98 bottles of beer on the wall..............


PS. Dr Gross better get his ass out of his office and call a press conference explaining his decision and what needs to happen for this team to head in the right direction. Somebody needs to be held accountable!
Cause if there is not going to be any changes, Gross is going to have start beer flavored nipples night to get people up to the dome for sudden impact reduex

grob for one more

As orange 44 would say, cue the crying baby!

Greg Robinson will be back for 08-09. Rumors swirled that's Daryl Gross was looking for a replacement but could not find a suitable replacement. So what is scarier, Gross could not find a top name coach to come, or Grob stays for another year and will sink the Orange deeper into obscurity.

I am in shock right now, it seems clear that Gross is sticking with his boy and hopefully will go down with ship. The question is how much damage will Gross and Grob do to the football program? How many empty seats will there be in the dome next year? How many coach's lose there job?

For me to show any kind of support for the football team next year, Changes need to be made.
Steve Russ need to be fired, the defense was awful and Grob needs to step up and take responsibility. He is the "defensive guru" and he needs to start being that.

Brian White and the west coast offense needs to be put to pasture. Cody Catalina needs to at least get a shot to playing time, Cody came in here as a recruit that was known for his scrambling ability. Start a spread offense and get that ball down field. you play half your games on turf in a dome.

Well Grob the pressure is on now, what are you going to do, run and hide or embrace it.

Gross, This is insane, and i truly hope that this works out for you, cause if it doesn't, replacing you and your boy will be the easy part. The hard part will be repairing this machine that is stuck in the mud spinning it's wheels. The next question is, how many people are going to be in the dome during the home opener.

The thing that bothers me the most about this is that Gross could not even face the public, he sends out a press release with no clear ways as to how this is going to be fixed. this is very disappointing.

Hot Seat

Take a look at the Coachs Hot Seat and look at number 14. Then take a look at the thirteen names above his. The entire country is saying as good as fired, why isn't Dr. Gross!

Money Problems

Well if it comes down to money being the reason Grob Stays for his fourth year, here is an interesting stat. This might be a reason why SU is Short on cash, even though "they are close to reaching there goal of raising 1billion dollars"!

The cover of this year's media guide has "SUDDEN IMPACT" printed along the bottom in big letters. What has been sudden and had a great impact financially on the university during Robinson's brief tenure is the increasing number of empty seats in the Carrier Dome each week. In 21 homes games over the past three seasons, more than 260,000 seats have not been sold. In Pasqualoni's final three years, the team went 16-20 and the figure was just under 160,000.

If you figure the average ticket is $26.00 then Syracuse has lost $6,760,000 in three years. Just in non ticket sales. Syracuse could have paid for Bobby Bowden for four years, Steve Spurrier for three and a half years, Urban Meyer and Pete Carroll for two years. I don't care what any body says, Syracuse brings in a coach of this calliber and you have instant recruiting success and at least seven wins the next year. Instead Syracuse tryed to save money and went after a life long assistant. I guess the old saying is true, you get what you pay for! Now Dr Gross you make your decision, and lets see how many millions you will lose next year! Think long and hard!

The West Side Slam

The West Side Slam is complete. Two high schools located less than 5 miles apart won state championships. West Genny and Bishop Ludden Both walked out of the Dome Yesterday with something that nobody will ever be able to take away from them, State Championships. As a Ludden grad in '96 it brings great pride to watch my fellow knights win state's. As i was standing in the Dome yesterday cheering on my School, i was amazed at how much this team has improved in the eleven years I have been gone. When i was attending Ludden, The team usually was blown out weekly. The fact that this small school in Westvale beat a Team like Dobbs Ferry who has not lost in two years, and has been to the State Championship 7 out of the last 8 years, is amazing. Go Ludden

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I Believe
I Believe We
I believe We Will
I Believe We Will Win

Why?

After a weekend of division 1 football coach's losing there jobs. Syracuse still has yet to make a decision on Greg Robinson. I am very confused why there has not been an announcement as to Grob's future with Syracuse. Either way Dr. Gross should make a decision quickly. If he is to be fired do it now and get somebody in here to save this years recruiting class, if he is to stay make an announcement and let this bum go out and sign some more d2 players. The fact that there is a high probability that Grob will be retained is disgusting. Look at Georgia Tech who just fired a coach with a winning record. they have decided that mediocrity will not be accepted. The fan at Syracuse would go ballistic over a 7-5 record. It would feel like we are floating on cloud 9. Under Gailey, the Yellow Jackets never lost fewer than five games in a year. Gailey has four years left on his contract at $1 million annually. There was some speculation that Georgia Tech's financially strapped athletic program would be reluctant to buy out the coach, but Radakovich clearly decided that it would be more damaging to offend the big-money boosters by keeping Gailey. This should be noted in Syracuse Decision to retain Grob. The fact that the actual attendance for Saturdays game was around 15000 which means that the Dome was 2/3 empty. How Can The Carrier Dome be 2/3 empty on the last home game an on Senior day. Is this what Syracuse wants, what is the Dome going to look like next year when there is no hope for a turn around and a tougher schedule looming. Where is Syracuse going with this. If the goal was to turn Syracuse into a D2 Power house then we are going in the right direction, if you would like to win a few games in d1 then lets make a change now and get somebody in hear who can win now. It can be done, look no further than the team that beat us two days ago.

look at the other schools making changes.

Duke fired Ted Roof on Monday, two days after the Blue Devils ended a 1-11 season with their ninth straight loss.Roof's over all record is 6-45

Nebraska -Bill Callahan's record is 27-22.It will cost the university more than $3.1 million to buy out Callahan’s contract

Southern Miss - Ed Orgeron went 10-25 in his first job as head coach. The school will him 75 percent of his $900,000 salary through 2009.

This is what amazes me, these schools all see problems. Why can't Syracuse. When are they going to realize that a change now would;

A. bring excitement back to the football team. this would carry over to ticket sales.
B. Might be able to sway better recruits who were shying away do to poor records.
C. Fans would be more tolerant of a new coach as long as he has a clear path in repairing this team.

Here are some things that Tom Osbourne has been quoted as saying about a new coach and scheme;

1. The next Nebraska coach doesn't necessarily have to have ties to the school, but Tom Osborne says the Cornhuskers' next leader must have an understanding of the program's unique culture and history.

2."I think it's really hard in college football if you don't have some mobility in your quarterback, to be successful," he said. "You need to have the ability to run the football once in a while and scramble for a first down. The rest of it, I don't know. The new coach will have to decide."

3."You want somebody that knows football and has a good work ethic. You want somebody that can motivate. Some people know football, but they really don't get people to play hard for them. Again, I'm not saying that's the case (with the previous staff). But you've got to get players to play hard."

4.Osborne said he also wants the new coach to embrace the atmosphere, which means showing respect for the program's past, being visible and building the trust of fans and players.

It seems like this guy really get it. Dr. Gross needs to emulate this guy., This is a winner. He know what is takes and know how to achieve it!

Check out this quote I found, sound familiar.

Callahan junked Osborne and Solich's triple-option for the West Coast offense, and the Huskers seemed to lose their hard edge. Under Osborne and Solich, some of the most ferocious hitting occurred on the practice field. Under Callahan, practices in full pads were uncommon.

Syracuse make a change. I implore you to make the right decision go ion another direction and save this program!

it's over

It's finally over. I have to admit that this was the hardest season that i have ever had to bear. How can anybody look forward to next year. Imagine a team without Jameel McClain and Joe Fields. With those two guys gone how is this defense that could not stop Miami of Ohio going to stop the likes of Buffalo next year. Where is the defense going to come from? Where is the Offensive line going to come from?

So know it's time, we the Syracuse Fan needs to wait and see. In the next few days we are going to find out if our "Great Guy" Coach will be back, and if he is back how is he going to right his sinking ship. I for one do not see Grob being the right man for the job. I feel that we have gone backwards in every facet of the game, and in all honesty i really do not see him turning the corner. I now that i have touched on this before, but Grob and his band of brothers are not Teachers, they are guys that for some reason can not invoke there views on their players. This is the over all problem. Grob has been an NFL coach for so long I feel that he just does not have the teaching skills necessary at this level, Especially with a team that is so young and needs to be taught. How does a team give up 11 sacks in one game, How are guys are going through the line with out even being touched or looked at? 11 sacks is acceptable at all. Two season with 10 loses is not acceptable, and bringing back a coach that feels we are going in the right direction is not acceptable.

Announced attendance Last night was just over 30000 people, i would have to say 15000 was more like it. How many millions of dollars in revenue lost is it going to take, how many embarrassing blowout on TV is it going to take. how many local recruits lost is going to take, and how many articles bashing Syracuse from the local and national media is it going to take to open your eyes and make a change. Grob must go!